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calm The dress code says no pants hanging off of your ass. Assistant Principal Patricia Walters takes that shit seriously. When Spencer Allison wore his baggies down low his teacher sent him to see her and she corrected the problem in impeccable fashion.
I don't think the principal did anything wrong either. It's time for more teachers and principals to get creative with the way they discipline defiant students.
September 24 2004, 14:26:48 UTC 7 years ago
September 24 2004, 15:06:54 UTC 7 years ago
Corporal Punishment
How about allowing corporal punishment instead? Then if that doesn't work, expel them. We need to get rid of schools for discipline problems, because nobody has a "right to an education."September 24 2004, 15:25:13 UTC 7 years ago
Re: Corporal Punishment
I'd certainly never approve of strangers hitting my child, for any reason. Too many adults have trouble controlling their anger, as evidenced by such phenomena as "road rage". No, I can't approve of corporal punishment in schools.Get rid of mandatory attendance laws first. I'm in favor of abolishing government schools altogether, but I'd say getting rid of mandatory attendance laws would be a slightly less radical first step. Anyone with any common sense should be able to see that people who don't want to learn or are incapable of advanced academics would be a disruption to those who are trying to learn.
September 24 2004, 15:36:35 UTC 7 years ago
Re: Corporal Punishment
the problem with just getting rid of attendence laws means kids can never show up to class and get D's in their classes and still pass...similar to what they do now, but at least low attendence means you can't graduate.September 24 2004, 15:41:55 UTC 7 years ago
Re: Corporal Punishment
In the state of Florida, if you don't attend school you cannot pass. That's even if you are enrolled and you know the material! Personally, I think that's wrong because if you can prove you know the material (through taking showing up occasionally and taking the tests) you should not receive a non-passing grade.But apparently you didn't understand the fact that I'm talking about not being required to be *enrolled* in school.
Obviously not knowing the material should cause you to fail the class. That should have nothing to do with attendance.
September 24 2004, 15:45:10 UTC 7 years ago
Re: Corporal Punishment
What I'm saying is some kids miss the maximum days and get all D's and C's they can graduate.Also you don't have to be enrolled in a school that's why they have homeschooled kids.
On the basis of your wording, my comment was related.
September 24 2004, 16:03:35 UTC 7 years ago
Re: Corporal Punishment
Let me try this again. Just one more time.In the state of Florida, if children miss more than nine days in any nine week attendance period they automatically FAIL that grading period. They do not get D's. They fail. Period. I don't have a clue what the laws are in other states, and if they pass with D's while not knowing the material then obviously that is wrong, but unrelated to my point.
My point is this... Are you paying attention?
Back in the 1800's there was no law that required children to attend school, nor required parents to send their children to school, nor required homeschooling. I believe we need to get rid of the laws that require schooling. Period.
September 24 2004, 16:08:22 UTC 7 years ago
why are you an ass all the time
Okay miss high and mighty...pay attention to your wording. You said attendance laws. I took that as you meant the laws requiring kids to go to school a certain amount of days.If you said the laws forcing kids to go to school it would have been different.
Why are you a freaking ass when you don't specify?
September 24 2004, 16:25:06 UTC 7 years ago
Re: why are you an ass all the time
I avoided the discussion inI also resisted calling you names, but I see that you aren't above that kind of thing, yourself. <shrug>
Just because you assumed I meant one specific *part* of the attendance laws doesn't mean that I was unclear. I meant ALL attendance laws, beginning with the requirement that children attend school (or be homeschooled) at all!
September 24 2004, 16:40:02 UTC 7 years ago
k
You were being completely condescending and I called you an ass for doing it.September 24 2004, 15:48:14 UTC 7 years ago
If someone is a genius then they don't need school anyway or their parents should put them in schools for gifted children.
September 24 2004, 16:06:02 UTC 7 years ago
September 24 2004, 16:13:37 UTC 7 years ago
I never said they should be forced
See my comment. I'm just saying repealing laws forcing children to go won't correct the problem because1) There are kids who go to school and just sit around doing nothing. They go just to get drugs or hang out with friends.
2) Teachers are failing as well..not just parents and kids.
September 24 2004, 16:22:43 UTC 7 years ago
Re: I never said they should be forced
If you remove the mandatory attendance laws, meaning the fact that parents are required to send their children to school and that children are required to attend (which is all based on the idea that we have a "right" to an education, as Jason stated), then you could simply get rid of those who are not there to learn!Which is what I said in the first place.
September 24 2004, 16:26:21 UTC 7 years ago
Re: I never said they should be forced
I understand what you are saying and I disagree that it will get rid of kids that don't want to learn.There are many kids who don't want to learn and still go to school because their parents want them to. That doesn't mean they will be productive just because they attend.
September 24 2004, 16:41:04 UTC 7 years ago
Re: I never said they should be forced
And as I said, they could then be expelled. As the law stands right now it is almost impossible to expel a child because they have a "right" to an education, according to the politicians and lawmakers, anyway.September 24 2004, 16:53:36 UTC 7 years ago
Re: I never said they should be forced
Since when can't children be expelled? I know plenty of kids who have.September 24 2004, 15:17:00 UTC 7 years ago
But homeschooled kids have a disadvantage now too. They do not get the social benefits from working in groups and other things unless the parents invovle them in scouts or community sports.
I think the best course of action is give people's tax money that is going to education back and let them run the schools. That way if a school is failing then they can get the bad teachers out of there. And parents of students who don't give a shit and the parents themselves who aren't involved with their children can pick up the tab for their D student.